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[Azireal]

Ok people.

I just saw this movie in imax.

it was the best experiance I have ever had in my entire life. hands down.

Go see it, you'll agree

[lithuse]

I saw it in 2-d, regular theater, but it was still made my top ten in a lifetime.

[Azireal]

It made me feel soo...... Energized.

I went out and ran, in the cold snow with shorts and a T-shirt on, and I hate the cold. and running.

[Evil66Drizzt]

I saw that in 3D! That was the best movie ever (in the sci-fi realm!)

[Knight of Roses]

It was beautiful, best realization of an alien world yet seen. But as science fiction, total failure.

[Azireal]

I don't like the review, it's asking a bunch of questions about stuff that doesn't matter in the movie, even less to the people watching it.

Plus I don't know if the guy writing the review actually watched the movie, he made alot of references to things being unexplained that clearly were.

[Knight of Roses]

Oh yes? I wrote that review and I did see the movie. And every one of those questions mattered to me (and I would argue to a coherent movie).

And explain them from the movie then.

[Azireal]

Well, unobtainium doesn't float or it would have whilst being held or carried in the large dump truck at the very first scene on pandora, it was on a pedestal in his office.

Second off, it doesn't seem like the questions that you asked seemed to matter in the movie.

for example, you were aggrivated about the absence of even a slight explination into the workings of their FTL drives, but the FTL drives aren't an important part of the movie. in fact they only get a passing mention in the very beginning.

Your whole paragraphs about the lack of research into pandora biology are... incorrect to say the least. the whole premise of the lack of pandora research is that they are only there for the unobtainium, and they don't even believe Grace Augustine when she attemps to tell them about the bioelectric network.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that everything on the planet has four eyes. the only thing with four eyes was the Toruk* (Last Shadow). in fact, the horse like creatures and the Thantor (Animal that chases Jake and lets Neytiri ride it into battle versus Quaritch) have no discernable eyes, the Ictlan* (Banshees) have only two.

Your paragraph on allowing the miliraty solution was a bit off aswell. While it hits better than most of what was said, it is still hollow. They stockpiled weapons just for the case in which they attack the natives, therefore it makes more sense that merely deciding to bring the weapons in the first place was the expensive part, not using them would have been wasted money for the corporation.

The entire military force there was not a US sponsored millitary force, they were Ex-marines (Which seems to be the only branch of the millitary that exsists in nearly any futuristic society) hired on by the corporation as mercenaries. It is speculative as to why they only hired ex-marines, perhaps they do get US sponsorship at least in monitary form perhaps they wanted to gt mercenaries familiar with the command structure but I digress.

Though I do agree with your assesment of the atmosphere. it needed more detail to be fully understood, without a description it just makes that part of the movie something to try to ignore.

* I'm not sure on the spelling.

[Knight of Roses]

FIrstly, it was a fun and enjoyable movie. I am not saying that people should not go see it and enjoy it (in fact I think people should see it), however I do not believe it was successful at science fiction for the reasons I noted.

To reply to your reply:

1) The main point is that why unobtainium was valuable was valuable was not defined. If I am throwing people across light years to get something, I want a better justification than, 'it's really valuable, you know?'

2) The most important invention in the history of humanity, the ability to travel to other star systems is not important? Without it, the entire rest of the movie does not exist.

3) Yes, they have been studying Pandoria for years and they know nothing about how the world's bilology works except how to clone stable human-navi hybrids. That makes perfect sense . . .

4) How I know the animals have four eyes is that I was watching for them. The secondary pair of eyes was smaller and set back. And, actually, if the number of eyes varies between the animals, it only reinforces my point that the biology is not naturally evolved.

5) Again, the weapons and the entire military force make no sense. They had no purpose. There was nothing shown on Pandora that was a threat to the earthmovers and mining equipment and soldier do not get unobtainium back to Earth. (The mecha suits might be justified as repurposed mining equipment.)

[Azireal]

Unobtainuim is a rare and valuable mineral in all science fiction movies in which it has appeared. It was stated that it "sells for 20 million a kilo" I figure that's reason enough to travel across space to get it.

FTL travel is not important to the movie. no matter what they explained it would have had absolutly no bearing whatsoever on the movie, I know we'd all like for them to put in hours and hours of content, but they needed to get the movie down to the important or dramatic stuff, not the trivial explination of a technology that doesn't matter in any context in the film.

They can create Hybrids. That shows that they have knowledge of some of the bioligy of the Na'vi people, not that they have accurate and working knowledge of a bioelectric floral network.

Watch closely, you cannot see eyes on the horses (at any point in the film) nor on the Thantor. Watch even closer on the Ictlan, you can see only two eyes, even on a close up of their faces you only see two.

I tend to agree, the marine presence on that planet seems a bit trivial at first. But think about it, they did some serious damage to the Omaticaya people before they were eventually defeated. One on one a human soldier versus and Na'vi hunter would present an ineresting opportunity to watch a human die, but in larger numbers the humans managed to take on a force much greater than theirs (Even if they were eventually defeated)

Remeber, it took the natural wildlife of the planet attacking the humans, en masse, to defeat the humans.

[Knight of Roses]

I am done with this discussion, Azireal. My opinions are my own as you are welcome to yours. But nothing is going to be gained by further debate between us.

[Regnier_Leinhart]

Interesting review Knight. I wouldn't have called it a complete failure as science fiction film. Now I would like to point out that Cameron did say that this was more a "science fantasy" then an actual science fiction movie, but he should have answered of the questions in the film. Like why "Unobtainium" was valuable? It never gets answered in the film. It really wouldn't have taken it that long to explain either. All they do is say it's valuable and expect us not to ask any questions. However I think a little ten minute explanation of why the rock was valuable could have been thrown in. Now after doing some research it appears that Cameron did say what "Unobtainium" does in interview with Entertainment Weekly. He stated they we want it as an energy supply. He described the metal as being superconductive. While I don't find that as a complete satisfactory answer, but they could have at least thrown that into the movie. Now it might have been thrown into the movie and cut in final production. Which we'll have to wait for he DVD to get released to find out. Also apparently James Cameron left a lot out of the film and explained it in the book on the film. Also I think the our antagonist mercenary marine commander explained much of what life was like Pandora, but it got dubbed by Jake's inner monologue at the beginning of the movie. I think some of the question that needed to be answered were answered in the film at one point it just got edited out for some reason or another.

I found the film to very good and quite enjoyable. I had a good story to it, even with the missing science part of the fiction. I would recommend it to anyone.

[Firefox15]

Hey guys, I saw Avatar recently and it is an awesome movie!!! I will be going back to see it in 3-D to really get the full movie experience. Go see it if you have not already!!

[TiFFman]

I loved this movie. Have seen it 3 times now

First normally, then in 3-d, then in 3-D IMAX. Haha I kept upgrading every time .

Still would see it again. Can't wait for it on blue ray!

[Scorch]

Yeah, criticisms aside, this movie is rediculously awesome.